Jean Vivien - Abraham Ortelius - 1597-8-28

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Jean Vivien, Aachen

Jean Vivien - Abraham Ortelius - 1597-8-28
FINA IDUnique ID of the page  818
InstitutionName of Institution. The Hague, Koninklijke Bibliotheek
InventoryInventory number. MS 79 C 4 (153), fol. 231
AuthorAuthor of the document. Jean Vivien
RecipientRecipient of the correspondence. Abraham Ortelius
Correspondence dateDate when the correspondence was written: day - month - year . August 28, 1597
PlacePlace of publication of the book, composition of the document or institution. Aachen 50° 46' 34.86" N, 6° 5' 1.90" E
Associated personsNames of Persons who are mentioned in the annotation. Adolf Occo
LiteratureReference to literature. Hessels 1887, no. 308, p. 724-7251, Callataÿ 2017, p. 125-126, n° 186.2
KeywordNumismatic Keywords  Greek , Egypt , Ptolemies , Athens , Legend
LanguageLanguage of the correspondence Latin
External LinkLink to external information, e.g. Wikpedia  https://www.academia.edu/34630611/2017 Glory and misery of Belgian numismatics from the 16th to the 18th c
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28 August 1597 (from Aachen): “S. P. Desidiam meam agnosco, amicissime Orteli, debeo enim responsum ad duas, et gratiarum actionem pro numulò Batavicò. In eò, amicus meus Ludovicus Massinius Leodicensis, legit LOIIX et Ludovicum facit Comitem aliquem. In parte aversà valorem putat exprimi; hoc admitto, illud amplio. Ptolemaeum aereum, qualem scribis, habeo; sed formae minore, et sine illae notae. Tibi gratulor, quòd sijmbolum tuum tam antiquum possides. Verè antiquitatis est; nam Christus heri et hodie idem et in saecula. Sed ad rem. Non mirum, imò verum et pervium, plura, praeter istud, nmina, ab X.P. incipere: ut , , , etc. Ptolaemorum regnum desierat ante auditum inter exteras gentes Christi nomen. Me torsi aliquando crica has notas, quae in Graecia nummis. Habeo argenteum Atheniensium, formae maioris, in quò Palladis caput galeatum, et in corona oleaginà Noctua cum urceò sud pedibus, et spica inscripta - (signe étrange) M. Vidi planò eundem, cum inscription fusoire , , . Hinc coniecturam capio, notae illias in meò nomina itidem propria esse. An verò , aut aliquia. Unde eruam? De M, quod in M H resolvo, cum in pluribus nummis reperiam, mihi occursabat, num denotet? Merae coniecturae, neque ullae suffultae auctoritate. Habeo alium, cuius inscriptio: et notae valdè perplexae (3 monograms), quis Oedipus nobis extricabit? Puto nomina esse eorum, qui rei, aut monetae praefuerunt, atque sub regibus monetariorum potiùs: nisi malis in hòc tuò notam (chrism) ipsius Iovis cognomen esse, qui dictus, et cultus in Cariae, an et in Aegyptò, disquirendum esste. Nec illis populis inusitatum fuit religionem inter se mutuari. Hunc autem ut Iovem Hammonem vocem nulla video cornuum vestigia. […] Occo significat Ortelianum tuum illac iter habuisse in Italiam, cum Anglò quodam viro doctissimo. Deum precor, eius studia prosperet” (Den Haag, Koninklijke Bibliotheek, MS 79 C 4 (153), fol. 231; Hessels 1887, no. 308, p. 724-725).

References

  1. ^  Hessels, J.H. (1887), Abrahami Ortelii (geographi Antverpiensis) et virorum eruditorum ad eundem et ad Jacobum Colium Ortelianum (Abraham Ortelii sororis filium) epistulae cum aliquot aliis epistulis et tractatibus quibusdam ab utroque collectis (1524-1628) ex autographis mandante ecclesia Londino-Batava, Cantabrigae. Reprint: Osnabrück, O. Zeller, 1969.
  2. ^  Callataÿ, Fr. de (2017), “Glory and misery of Belgian numismatics from the 16th to the 18th c. as seen through three milestones (Goltz 1563, Serrure 1847 and the Dekesels) and private correspondences”, in J. Moens (ed.), 175 years of Royal Numismatic Society of Belgium. Proceedings of the Colloquium ‘Belgian numismatics in perspective (Brussels, 21 May 2016’), Brussels, pp. 37-129.